Ameren Corporation (AEE) Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript
Review management commentary and the analyst Q&A from Ameren Corporation (AEE)'s Q2 2026 earnings call. Use the transcript to track changes in demand, guidance, operating priorities, and the KPIs behind the company's reported results.
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Operator: Good day, everyone. My name is Ryan, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Amarin Corporation second quarter 26 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, if you have joined via the webinar, please use the raise hand icon. Which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Andrew Kirk, senior director of investor relations and corporate modeling.
Andrew Kirk: Thank you, and good morning. On the call with me today are Martin Lyons, our Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer Lenny Singh, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Michael L. Moehn, Group President of our Ameren Utilities, as well as other members of the Ameren management team, including our new Ameren Missouri President, Aaron Melda, who joined the Ameren team in June. This call contains time sensitive data that is accurate only as of the date of today's live broadcast, and redistribution of this broadcast is prohibited. We have posted a presentation on the amereninvestors.com homepage that will be referenced by our speakers. As noted on page 2 of the presentation, comments made during this conference call may contain statements about future expectations, plans, projections, financial performance, and similar matters, which are commonly referred to as forward-looking statements. Please refer to the forward-looking statements section in the news release we issued yesterday, as well as our SEC filings for more information about the various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Now here's Mark, who will start on page 4.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to cover our second quarter performance and progress toward achieving our 2026 strategic objectives. At Ameren, we serve 2.5 million electric and more than 900 thousand natural gas customers across the 64 thousand square mile territory in Missouri and Illinois. With nearly 10 gigawatts of generation, and more than 110 thousand miles of transmission and distribution lines, across both states. Our focus is always on providing safe and reliable service while keeping costs as low as possible for our customers who depend on us to power their homes, businesses, and communities. On this page, we outline some of the exciting developments from the second quarter that we will cover during this call. Overall, our operating performance has been strong year to date, and our earnings and strategic accomplishments provide a solid foundation for strong results for 2026 and beyond. Turning to page 5. Yesterday, we reported second quarter 26 earnings of $1.13 per share compared to earnings of $1.10 per share the second quarter of 25. The year over year increase reflected earnings on infrastructure investments, partially offset by the cost of increased tree trimming and energy center maintenance to improve system reliability and resiliency for our customers. Further, we reaffirmed our 2026 earnings per share guidance which is a range of $5.25 to $5.45. Reflecting solid execution across our business during the first 6 months of the year. Our strategy, as outlined on page 6, is grounded in delivering value to the customers and communities we have the privilege to serve. By investing in and strengthening the energy infrastructure in our communities, advocating for constructive energy policies, and continuously optimizing performance to improve service quality we are safely delivering on what matters most to our customers. Reliable energy at the lowest cost possible. Turning to page 7. Our strategy has served our customers well. Improving Ameren's average reliability performance to top quartile, supporting tens of billions of dollars in annual economic impact, enhancing customer service satisfaction, and keeping our average rates below national and Midwest averages. Moving to page 8. Here, we reiterate our strategic priorities for 2026. Of course, targeted and timely infrastructure investments are key to serving our customers well. As shown on the right, we invested more than $2.6 billion energy infrastructure during the first 6 months of the year to maintain and enhance our quality of service. Importantly, our infrastructure investments continue to perform well, reducing customer outage frequency and duration during multiple instances of severe weather in the second quarter of 26. Turning to page 9 for an update on our economic development pipeline. At Ameren, we are proud to provide the quality of service that is necessary to attract investment and economic growth to our region. The pipeline of economic development interest within our territory remains robust across Missouri and Illinois. In Missouri alone, we have executed 3.4 gigawatts of construction agreements. Of which 2.8 gigawatts of projects now have ESAs. And there is an additional 4 gigawatts of projects in Missouri with completed interconnection studies. Further, some customers with executed ESAs have also expressed interest in expanding their footprint. And across both states, a diversified pipeline of economic development opportunities continues to expand beyond the large load growth opportunities. Our economic development teams remain focused on supporting long term business investment and job growth in the regions we serve. Earning accreditation from the International Economic Development Council, as recognition of our effective leadership, responsiveness, and strong community engagement including robust partnerships with regional and local economic development organizations. That work is translating into tangible results across our service territory. During the second quarter, Google and Amazon announced projects in our Missouri service territory representing a combined planned investment of $25 billion. These projects are part of the 2.8 gigawatts of electric service agreements signed earlier this year. The official announcements and construction groundbreaking are important milestones. And no time is being wasted on the start of construction. Consistent with the requirements, of Missouri Senate Bill 4, these customers will pay for 100% of the power and infrastructure costs driven by their operations. And once operational, large load customers will contribute to paying fixed costs of the energy grid, providing long term cost benefits for our other customers. These projects are expected to create thousands of construction jobs for local contractors, and small businesses, and once built, will directly employ hundreds of people. In addition, the projects are expected to generate billions of dollars in local tax revenues. And Google and Amazon have committed millions of dollars through community benefit agreements to support new workforce development, energy efficiency, and community focused programs both locally and across the state. We will continue to work closely with businesses interested in locating operations in our service territory to find the right solutions that meet their needs and ultimately support economic development in the region. Turning to page 10, for Ameren Missouri's sales growth expectations. Recall our long term earnings per share outlined in February were based on a planning assumption of 1.2 gigawatts of additional sales by the end of 30, or a compound annual sales growth rate of 6.2% from 2026 through 2030. As we have said before, the 2.8 gigawatts assigned ESAs represent upside to our sales and earnings forecast to the extent customer load by 2030 ramps faster than sales included in our existing planning assumptions. Those ESAs call for sales to begin materializing in the second half of 27, and we expect to see annual electricity sales increase by 60% from 2025 levels by the end of 29. Turning to page 11 for an update on Ameren Missouri's generation portfolio. We are focused on maintaining a balanced mix of generation resources that meet the demands of our Missouri customers with an adequate reserve margin. Today, we are well on our way to increasing our existing generation capacity as our team executes on the generation plans outlined in our 2025 integrated resource plan. This year, a total of 350 megawatts of new solar generation has been placed in service including the 300-megawatt split rail renewable energy center, which began providing low cost energy for customers in June. 1 month ahead of schedule. Another 2.25 thousand megawatts of simple cycle gas, solar, and battery storage resources have been approved by regulators, are under construction, and will begin serving customers in 2027 and 2028. In May, we filed CCN request for nearly 1 thousand additional megawatts of new solar and storage resources to begin serving customers in 2028 and 2029. And this month, we filed a CCN request for the 2.1-gigawatt West Alton natural gas combined cycle facility is expected to be in service in 2031. With more than 5 gigawatts of new resources currently under development and more in the pipeline, I am pleased to say that our teams are well positioned to deliver these projects on schedule for our customers. We have procured turbines for the 3 gas projects and have secured all critical long lead components for all of the planned energy resources I just highlighted and detailed on this page. And we have executed gas supply contracts and awarded labor contracts for both simple cycle natural gas facilities. I should also note that we are acting on opportunities to enhance the reliability and performance of our existing energy centers especially during peak periods, helping to keep customer costs as low as possible. Before moving on, as we gain greater clarity on the new large load customer construction timelines and ramp rates, and other economic development opportunities, we are sharpening our perspective on long term sales trends and energy resource needs and costs. We remain on track to file an update to Ameren Missouri's integrated resource plan in late September incorporating these perspectives. And we plan to update our sales, capital investment forecast, financing plans, and long term earnings growth expectations on our third quarter earnings call. As new large load electric demand evolves, our focus remains on serving all customers reliably, and affordably by carefully planning and executing grid upgrades, maintaining a balanced generation portfolio, and ensuring cost to serve new large load customers are appropriately allocated to and paid by such customers. Moving to page 12 for a brief transmission update. We continue making robust investments in our region's transmission to ensure reliability, and efficiency. And we expect investment levels to remain strong over time to support new large load customers and to connect the generation resources required to serve our territory reliably as regional demand grows. At the same time, we remain focused on executing our assigned and awarded long range transmission projects from the first 2 MISO LRTP tranches. In the second quarter, MISO selected our joint proposals for the WIL and STU LRTP tranche 2 competitive projects located in our Illinois service territory. We have now won the opportunity to develop all competitive long range transmission projects in our service territory, within both the tranche 1 and tranche 2 portfolios, reflecting our strong record of designing, building, and operating high quality transmission infrastructure We have also submitted joint bids for the 2 remaining tranche 2.1 competitive projects, each located in Iowa, and we expect the winning bids to be selected by November. Turning to page 13, outlined the investment pipeline across our businesses over the next decade. These investments will support the safety, reliability, and resiliency of the energy grid. While positioning our system to power the quality of life for all customers in our territory. The pipeline now includes more than $71 billion of investment opportunity through 2035, including planned investment associated with the competitive LRTP project recently won. And is subject to change later this year as we update guidance on our third quarter call following our Missouri integrated resource plan filing. Turning to page 14. We expect effective execution of our strategy, will continue to drive strong total shareholder return. In February, we updated our 5 year growth plan, which included our expectation to deliver annual earnings per share growth consistently near the upper end of our 6% to 8% compound annual earnings growth rate from 2026 through 2030. We expect this earnings growth will be primarily driven by strong compound annual rate base growth of 10.6% reflecting strategic capital allocation across our constructive regulatory frameworks and conservative sales growth assumptions. I am excited by the milestones achieved year to date consistent with our 2026 objectives outlined in February and we remain well positioned to update our long term growth expectations on our third quarter call in November. In the meantime, I am confident in our team's ability to effectively execute our investment plans and other elements of our strategy across all 4 of our business segments, in a way that benefits our customers, communities, and shareholders. Again, thank you all for joining us today. I will now turn the call over to Lenny.
Leonard Singh: Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Turning now to page 16 of our presentation. Yesterday, we reported second quarter 26 earnings of $1.13 per share compared to earnings of $1.10 per share for the second quarter of 25. As Marty discussed, our ongoing infrastructure investments to strengthen the energy grid and expand generation resources continue to be the primary drivers of earnings growth across the company. In addition, we continue to experience solid customer growth at Ameren Missouri where total normalized retail sales over the trailing 12 months through June increased approximately 1%, primarily driven by the commercial customer class. Partially offsetting positive earnings drivers this year, we have increased our reliability focused tree trimming and energy center maintenance efforts which are reflected in the higher and m expense at Ameren Missouri. Moving to page 17. For select considerations, for the remainder of the year. We remain confident in our 2026 earnings per share guidance range of $5.25 to $5.45. As we sit here today, our results through June right where we expect them to be. We will continue to make reliability improvements such as increasing tree trimming, and energy center maintenance over the balance of the year strengthen service for our customers. And through continued execution of our strategy, we remain focused on delivering 2026 earnings at or above the midpoint of our guidance range. Turning to Page 18. I will provide an update on the Missouri electric rate review we filed with the Missouri PSC in late June. Our request for a $343 million revenue increase is designed to recover the cost of significant system reliability and resiliency investments. In addition to incorporating meaningful infrastructure improvements for our customers, this request also includes savings from projected data center revenues for our retail customers establishes a new income eligible discount rate to supplement our financial assistance programs already in place. If approved as requested, the discount would offset the proposed rate adjustment for our most vulnerable customers, while customers' rates overall would remain below the national and Midwest averages. Moving to page 19, we expand upon the customer value reflected in our Missouri rate review. Since our last rate review in 2024, we have continued to invest in our electric infrastructure to strengthen the energy grid including constructing new and enhanced existing power lines, poles, and substations, upgrading and adding new generation resources and rebuilding sections of the grid after catastrophic storms blew through the states. Notably, we have utilized Missouri based suppliers and contractors to help deliver these projects, supporting local jobs, economic growth. And as we have made these investments, we have maintained a strong focus on disciplined cost management, throughout the business. Allowing us to keep Emory Missouri's residential rate growth less than inflation since 2017. This combination of our focus on affordability and the quality of our critical infrastructure has allowed us to provide top quartile reliability for our customers at rates approximately 25%. Below the national average. These factors have also contributed to Missouri's ability to attract new businesses to the region. Importantly, while Ameren Missouri is not currently serving any large load data center customers, The ESA Signed Earlier This Year With Large Load Customers Reflect No Discounts For These New Customers But Rather A Rate That Is Higher Than Our Standard Industrial Rates. Revenues From New Large Load Customers Are Expected To Lower Residential Customer Bills, From What They Otherwise Would Have Been In This Rate Review. Specifically, We estimate Ameren Missouri's customers will realize approximately $21 million in projected base rate savings over the 2 years following the rate review compared to what they otherwise would have paid. We expect a Missouri PSC order by May 2027 with new rates effective by June 2027. Moving to page 20 for an update on Ameren Illinois' regulatory matters. Earlier this month, we updated our request for a revenue adjustment as part of the annual performance base rate reconciliation under the electric multiyear rate plan. The $31 million adjustment we are requesting reflects 2025 actual cost, actual year-end rate base, and the allowed return on equity and common equity ratio established in the multiyear rate plan. It also aligns with the ICC staff's recommendation. An ICC decision is expected in December with rates reflecting the approved reconciliation adjustment effective in January 2027. In addition, stakeholder engagement is ongoing with respect to the $2.75 billion electric distribution grid investment plan we have proposed for the 2028 through 2031 period. In July, staff and other interveners filed testimony with individual proposed adjustments to prospective infrastructure projects ranging from $50 million to $220 million. We expect an ICC decision on the proposed investment plan by December with an associated rate review filing to follow in the first quarter of 27. Turning to page 21 where we provide a financing update. We continue to feel good about our financial position. As we fund our robust infrastructure plan, we remain focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet and supporting our credit ratings. To that end, we continue to make progress towards addressing our expected equity needs of approximately $4 billion from 2026 through 2030. To satisfy our 2026 equity needs in 2025, we sold forward approximately $600 million of equity, representing approximately 6.4 million shares. Which we expect to issue near the end of this year. So far this year, to address a portion of our prospective equity needs, we have sold forward approximately $1.2 billion of common stock under our at the market program. We will continue to be thoughtful about our approach to executing our equity plan. This spring, we are pleased that S&P and Moody's reaffirmed our stable outlook and BBB+ and Baa1 credit ratings, respectively. As we have said before, we value our current ratings, and we remain committed to maintaining a strong balance sheet and strong credit metrics as we execute our growth plan. In summary, turning to page 22. We are making strong progress toward our strategic objectives in 2026, which we expect will continue to drive consistent superior value for our customers communities, and shareholders. Our financial outlook remains strong, supported by robust yet conservative sales growth assumption, solid rate based growth, disciplined cost management, and a strong pipeline of customer value driven investment opportunities. We are excited about the future because the opportunities before us are grounded in providing strong service to our customers. By investing in our system, maintaining a sharp focus on affordability, and supporting economic growth across Missouri and Illinois, we believe we are creating lasting value the customers and communities that depend on us every day. As a result, we remain confident in our ability to deliver strong earnings and dividend growth and attractive long term returns for our shareholders. That concludes my prepared remarks. We now invite your questions.
Operator: We will now move to our question-and-answer session. If you have joined by the webinar, please use the raise hand icon which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. When you are called on, please unmute your line and ask your question. We will now pause a moment to assemble the queue. Your first question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith: Hey. Good morning, guys. Hopefully, you can hear me okay. Thanks for the time. I appreciate it. Look. Let me just kick it off here with the 4-gigawatt number that you guys dropped. I mean, continued nice progress here. Just wanted to see here. What does progress look like in terms of translating that back into a more formalized, data points here? I mean, obviously, very strong momentum. Anecdotally, your customers, from your adjacent utilities. I mean, just wanted to kind of ask you to elaborate a little bit on, like, timing and also what some of the critical milestones might be in terms of transposing some of that incremental 4 gigawatts here? I feel like I would be remiss to start anywhere else.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Yes, Julien, this is Mark. Hey. Thanks for the question, and good morning to you. Yeah. As it relates to the energy services agreements, that we are signing, you know, we feel like we are making really good progress and very much in line with where we had hoped to be at this time. You know, we, last quarter, we had talked about the expectation of soon signing additional gigawatts of ESAs. And in fact, signed, you know, 600 megawatts of ESAs shortly after our last call. So we are up to 2.8 gigawatts of signed ESAs. As you note, we have 4 gigawatts of projects with completed interconnection studies beyond that. And we also have incremental, oh, about 600 megawatts of construction agreements which have not been converted yet, DSA. So, you know, there is greater potential out I will tell you, we are really excited about the progress we are seeing on the 2.8 gigawatts, though, that we talked about. You know, some of the things we mentioned on this quarter, we saw both Google and Amazon have groundbreaking ceremonies and actually begin construction on large data center projects, here in our service territory. So we are seeing some great milestones there, and, we are excited about that. And, you know, on this call, as we talked about, we are expecting that to generate sales increases here in just the next few years. So very excited about that progress. When I talk about those 2.8 gigawatts of ESAs we have signed, Some of the counterparties associated with those have certainly been expressing interest and expanding beyond the growth that we are already experiencing. And we are excited that there are 4 gigawatts of additional sites out there. Potential projects that have completed interconnection studies. And, you know, I will tell you that we have other land etcetera, that is available for additional development. So look, Julien. We know right now as it relates to data center growth, it is about land availability and speed to power. We think in our part of Missouri, we do have additional land as evidence by some of these sites that have interconnection studies completed. And our team is working very hard to bring greater energy generation resources into our portfolio, which I think is demonstrated by the great work our team's done, this year and is outlined on slide 11.
Michael L. Moehn: Hey, Julien. it is Michael. The only thing I might add to that is I think it sort of manifested itself through the IRP process as well. Right? So I think as we kind of march through time, you know, we have indicated we are going to file this IRP. In the October time frame. it is 1 of the things you obviously do through this process. A bunch of scenario planning, trying to really understand, look at the demand, put some greater probability around that. And so I think it feeds into that process and hopefully get greater clarity in the fall.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith: Awesome. I should get into some of the more details real quickly. First, just notice some of latest CPCN that was talked about self-perform. You know, is it just it more of a reflection on this the state of the E and C market and EPC availability. And the cost therein. Can you speak to that briefly here? I think it was the Alton CPCN. Just and what risks are you effectively taking on versus are you effectively gonna subcontract over time here too? Just to elaborate a little bit on that 1.
Michael L. Moehn: Hey. Hey, Julien. This is Michael again. Yes. I will touch on that, and others can chime in as well. You know, look. We feel good about where we sit today with respect to that 2.1-gigawatt combined cycle. Plant that we just filed the CCN for. I think as Mark indicated in his prepared remarks, we secured the long lead time material, the turbines, we have had great discussions with the OEM there. Feel good about the delivery dates. Working through the gas procurement piece of that, obviously, that is a big part of it just given the overall size of that plant itself. In terms of the labor piece, you know, again, working through a lot of this here. We will have more to share in the fall as we thought, you know, wrap up these final negotiations. But, look, it will be a great partnership of local-based manufacturers, suppliers, developers, names that you will know that have worked on large industrial projects. Combined with, you know, an owner engineer that has developed you know, several of these combined cycle plans. So feel good about the combination of resources that we are putting together. Spending a great deal of time, you know, just working through work workforce issues, making sure we have the right skilled craft, needed, you know, over that time frame. But I think it is an exciting partnership. You know, Missouri based resources, building Missouri based power. And so, you know, obviously, the structure, you know, is not a traditional EPC, but honestly, given where the market is today, it is difficult to get those. And so there will be appropriate risk sharing in there, but we feel good about where we are through the negotiations at this point, and we will certainly share more of those details as we get to the final disclosure here in the fall.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith: Sorry. Super quick mid take. On the IRP process in Illinois, do you really expect much in resource development there on your side. Right? Just I wanna circle back to that. I know it is a novel process there. Just wanna set expectations I swear, last question.
Michael L. Moehn: it is Michael again. I will I will touch on it. Yes. Look. I we have feel good about the process, the fact that it is ongoing. Correct? I mean, I think we were excited to see, you know, the elements of this in Senate Bill 25. I think been some good resource adequacy studies, you know, shining a light on some of the issues that we have talked about in the past just in terms of where the know, the resource additions are versus where the demand is. So I think it is working through the process. You are having some good meaningful conversations You know, obviously, as you know, we just talked about them. We have a robust IRP process in Missouri. We are lending resources. You know, where appropriate to just have conversations with the Illinois folks just to make sure they are on, you know, they understand it because it is been a long time since we have done it in Illinois. But the fact that we are having the conversations and shining a light on, you know, what we need to do in the future so we continue to put I think, the state in the most competitive position. Is exciting from my perspective. So we will we will see where the ultimate the ultimate process takes us. Thank you, guys.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Thanks, Julien.
Operator: Your next question will come from the line of Shawn Pourreza with Wells Fargo. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Andrew Kenevy: Hi. Actually, it is Andrew Kenevy on for Shar. Can you give us a little more color on the nature of the $800 thousand of investments in innovative energy technology? And can we expect this kind of tailwind to earnings to persist throughout the year?
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Andrew, good morning. This is Mark. Yeah. These are investments we have made over time, equity investments in innovative infrastructure funds and had an unrealized gain this year, which was beneficial in the first half. Not something that we expect to be recurring in nature.
Andrew Kenevy: Okay. Great. Thank you. And then just on the $21 million of savings for customers prior to data center loads being served. Can you walk me through the mechanics of how that million comes from, and will that number increase as the loads actually ramp?
Michael L. Moehn: Yes. Yes. This is Michael. And, yeah, I mean, it is associated with those data center revenues that are ramping, you know, beginning to ramp, modestly there in the first half 27. So it is really trying to capture that piece of it. And then it, you know, it certainly would continue to grow as we continue to ramp those, those projects, throughout 2028 and 2029. Depending on where you are in the overall rate review process. Thank you. I will leave it there.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Carly Davenport: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe to start, you highlighted in the potential to update the EPS growth guidance on a third quarter call. I guess, 1, could you help us sort of frame the potential range of outcomes and perhaps if there is any that you need to see between now and then to govern, you know, a larger potential step up in the outlook? And then the follow-up would just be anything you can share on whether you would look to differentiate a long term growth rate versus that over a 5 year planning period?
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Yes, Carly. Great questions, and good morning. This is Mark again. Hey. Look. You know, when you look at, the guidance that we provided in February and, you know, is outlined in the slides today, We have got, you know, sitting here today, 10.6% CAGR on rate based growth. We have got you know, 6% to 8% earnings per share growth. And we talked about and reiterated that we expect that the base that we have today would consistently produce annual EPS growth near the upper end of that 6% to 8% guidance range. So that is kind of the starting point. Then if you look at what we have talked about last quarter and this quarter, certainly, our sales trends as well as our CapEx trends lean positive in terms of incremental growth. And, you know, we are seeing really good momentum as we talked about today. You know, this year, 2.8 gigawatts of ESA signed. We are seeing groundbreakings. We are seeing construction begin. We are really seeing some positive momentum in terms of that growth and the expectation of incremental sales. As Michael just discussed, you know, a big thing for us then is really taking those sales trends looking at what we expect them to be over the next 5 years and updating them. Again, you know, when we look at the sales trends that we have got and we talk about you know, sales expected in Missouri to increase by 60% by the end of 2029. You know, certainly, that is incremental to the base guidance that we had. At the beginning of the year in our 5 year plan. And as part of that IRP, as Michael said too, we will be giving thoughts to what incremental growth we might expect to see beyond this 2.8 gigawatts what that would translate into, particularly in the 5 to 10 year portion of our plans. And then updating our generation expectations to go along with that as well as our transmission expectations as we think about interconnecting some of these large load generation resources to the grid. In any event, we will be, as you know, filing a new integrated resource plan in September We will be incorporating our updated thoughts on you know, sales and generation. I think that along with updated financing assumptions, will really give us the ability to provide you a good update to our EPS growth outlook in that third quarter call. And, you know, I am not going to front-run, you know, what that update might look like. But, again, know, when you think about what we have disclosed, it certainly leans positive in terms of our overall growth rate. Over the next 5 years. As you look out to that 5- to 10-year period, you know, look. We will we will update our 10-year investment pipeline that you are used to seeing. I think that will give you a good insights into the durability of our growth. Over that 10-year period. You will also have as part of that IRP updated Missouri sales growth expectations out through 10 years. You will see our generation investment plans out through 10 years. And you know how we finance our business, which, you know, we tend to finance it with a mix of debt and equity securities that end up producing a capital structure that is pretty steady over time. So, you know, you know what our financing assumptions ought to be. So I think we will give you at a minimum some really good foundational elements to build a model that goes out through 10 years.
Carly Davenport: that is really helpful. Thank you for that. I will leave it there.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Richard Sunderland with Truist Securities. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Richard Sunderland: Hey, good morning. Can you hear me? Yes, Richard. Good morning. Great. Thank you. I will I will pick it up with a follow-up on Carly's question. How are you thinking about the financing changes into this fall plan now update with moving pieces like a lower Moody's downgrade threshold? And the prospects of this significant load ramp starting in 2027 in the cash flow benefits out of that. it is I know you hit on some of the themes earlier, but just curious specific to those factors and any other moving pieces you would highlight on balance of that part of that update?
Leonard Singh: Hey, Richard. Good morning. Lenny Singh here. You know, Mark talked a little bit about this before, and I covered it. I think a good part of it in my prepared remarks. Right? Consistent with our approach, we will look at a balanced approach in terms of debt and equity. Again, our focus really is around maintaining a strong balance sheet, strong credit metrics, and, you know, having flexibility in our mechanisms within that capital structure. You heard in my prepared remarks, I talked about 2026 Again, most of that need was met in 2025 with the 600 million of forward sales agreement. Which we expect to settle, at the end of 2026. Year to date, we have got a $1.2 billion of forward sales already covered. In terms of future needs, really, we will focus on a couple of things. 1 is operating cash flows, really looking at long term debt financing. And, really, our annual equity issuance is really, again, we have used the ATM over the years. It served us well, and we expect to remain in that space in the foreseeable future in terms of a financial strategy. But I think we have also said earlier this year that, you know, a portion of that in the future could be met with hybrid securities. So, the bottom line is, Richard, we expect to remain flexible leveraging all of the tools in the toolbox, but certainly a disciplined approach around how we approach financing, maintain that strong balance sheet, strong credit metrics, and really think about what is the lowest reasonable cost of capital. But, also, as Mark mentioned, as we think about the next 5 years and we update the plan in the fall, Q3, around the IRP sales assumption, etcetera, will give a broader update on our financing needs and our plans on how we plan to address that for the balance of the year.
Richard Sunderland: Understood. Thanks for the commentary there. And then I guess, sticking with the load piece, that acceleration implied under the new guidance at 60%, How does that tie in with the gas plants that are in your current resource plan? I guess I am trying to think a little bit forward to the fall IRP filing, but is this about kind of bridging resource need to those gas plants later this decade and into the next? Or what are some other considerations with meeting that faster ramp on the load?
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Yes, Richard. This is Mark again. Yeah. Good question. Hey. Look. At the beginning of the year when we laid out our you know, sales expectations and, frankly, when you go back to the IRP that we filed last year, you know, we not only had an expectation of being able to serve, up to that 6.2% sales CAGR, the 1.2 gigs that we outlined by 2030. But if you recall that, and I think it is still today on, you know, slide 10, and you see that upper shade. The generation resources that we have been building out did have and do have the capability to actually serve incremental to the baseline load growth expectation. So, you know, what we have been doing and what you see outlined on slide 11 is, you know, really developing as we have talked about, a really good mix of assets. You know, renewables, battery, gas, assets, that would go to serve that load that was outlined in our IRP last year. And we are continuing to develop further projects beyond that. Now as you look at the, you know, the 2.8 gigawatts of ESAs we have and the load ramp that we have, you know, we are looking actively and have been throughout the year at additional resources that we can pull forward that were in that IRP as well as resources that would be additive to that mix. Both, during the 5 year period, but also in the 5 to 10 year period. And so you know, as we identify those projects, develop those, We will announce those. We will also include in our IRP the incremental expectations we have. But for both the 5- and 10-year period. So, again, look for a good update on that on our third quarter call. Great. Thanks for the time today. You bet.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sophie Karp with KBCM. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Sophie Karp: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for the time. So I just wanted to clarify a little bit on the 6.2% sales CAGR. That include the 2.8 gigawatts of recent ESAs and some kind of ramp schedule of those. So, like, accelerated ramp would be incremental. Or does this not include any of the 2.8 gigawatts?
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Yeah. So, yeah, this is Mark. Yeah. You know, look. The 6.2% sales CAGR was, again, a planning to assumption that was included in our IRP last year. And so it did it did anticipate some increase in sales associated large load customers. And, again, if you look at the slide that we have got on slide 10, it is about 1.2 gigawatts through 2030. And, again, as I just said, the generation plans we had would allow us to serve up to the top of that graph in the green. If you look at the 2.8 gigawatts of ESAs that we have, that does represent upside or an increase to sales relative to that baseline expectation that we had incorporated last year. So bottom line, yes. Our assumptions, in the last IRP did include some increase relative to large load customers. However, the 2.8 gigawatts that we have signed represents upside or, you know, an increase to those expectations. And so, again, as we roll into the IRP this fall, we will again be updating our sales growth expectations based upon signed ESAs plus expectations around growth beyond that.
Sophie Karp: Got it. Thank you. it is super clear now. And my second question was on the Missouri rate case. I guess it is early innings still, but how would you frame a possibility of having a settlement here as opposed to going a fully litigated track?
Michael L. Moehn: Hi, Sophie. Good morning. it is Michael. Yeah. You took the words right out of my mouth. It is early innings, but you know, as I frame up the case, I mean, again, you know, since our last case, you know, 2 years ago, I mean, this really is about capital investment. You know, we have been investing in electric infrastructure to strengthen the grid. Mark and I think Lenny did a nice job, you know, indicating on the call, you know, it is really around new poles, new generation. We made some substantial upgrades to some existing generation to give us some dual fuel capability. Using Missouri based suppliers, contractors, you know, to drive the economic growth, My point in sharing all that, I mean, it really is a straight case in terms of capital investment there to, you know, benefit customers. I think we always go into this with a mind to try to settle as much as we possibly can. We will get some indication from staff and others, you know, that first week of December. That really gives you the sense for sort of the puts and takes are at that point. And then, you know, if we have an opportunity to settle, that would be late February, early March to really have those robust discussions and then go from there. But as you indicated, early innings, but a pretty straightforward case.
Sophie Karp: Very helpful. Thank you. Appreciate that. that is all for me. Thank you.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Thank you.
Operator: The reminder, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. When you are called on, please unmute your line and ask your question. Your next question will come from the line of Stephen D'Ambrizi with RBC. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Stephen D'Ambrizi: Hey, Mark and Michael. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Good morning, Steve. Just had a quick 1. As a follow-up to kind of some of what you talked about, I think talking about the know, lighter shade in green and being the base plan being able to serve that higher level load is very helpful. But just to the level-set in terms of potential, resources to pull forward or other factors that you could flex. When I look at slide 28, it really only looks like the large dispatchable item that you have that is maybe outside the 30 plan. Would be the 2.1-gigawatt gas combined cycle. So really 2 questions. 1 is, is that something that can be accelerated forward? And then 2, to the extent you need additional dispatchable gen beyond that, like, what is the lead time to get a turbine or get in the slot for additional dispatchable gen and to serve some of this higher load?
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Yes, Steve, maybe I will start, then Michael can certainly, tack on to this. But you know, as it relates to that, combined cycle where we just filed frankly, the CCN request within the past week. You know, there is really not an opportunity to accelerate that as you mentioned. that is something we plan to have going into service by the end of 2031. And as Michael said, we feel like we are on very good path to accomplish that. So, you know, the things that we have been looking to pull forward, are in the mix of other things we have talked about, which includes, you know, solar, batteries, which are dispatchable. Fuel cells are another area of technology that we are looking at. In longer term, you know, beyond the 5 years, we have wind in there, but it does not really fit into that category of things that, you know, we think we could pull forward in the near term. But are also looking at other, you know, types of dispatchable assets that we might be able to incorporate into our 5 year plans. That may be more helpful at peak. So not combined cycle assets, but things that could help us with peak generation needs. Michael, what do you want to add to that, if anything?
Michael L. Moehn: Not much, Mark. I think those are really the resources. I mean, I think the team does a really nice job for scouring what the opportunities are. I mean, there is some small you know, kind of peaking assets that we are seeing on the market that are becoming available. We are looking at those. We have lots of sites, you know, existing sites that we have that we are trying to make sure we just fully maximize because there is benefits, obviously, to speed there and the cost and using some of that existing infrastructure. So just really trying to avail ourselves of all options. And we certainly do have some few. I think Mark's right. On these and you know this too, just on the large scale generation you are not gonna really accelerate those today just given where things are. And so it really is about filling it in with these smaller resources Fuel cells is an interesting technology, spending a lot of time on that. And, you know, certainly some possibilities there.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: And, Steve, the last thing I would want to make mention of is just my compliments to our generation teams because, you know, we are really looking at all of our existing generation assets and what additional investments we can make in those assets. To make sure that they are available when needed and that, you know, to the extent that they can be modified to provide us greater availability at winter peak summer peak, that type of thing. We are really turning over every stone there because, obviously, that is a good, provides good cost effective resources for our customers. So wanna compliment them on that work.
Stephen D'Ambrizi: Perfect. Thanks very much, Mark, Michael, and Lenny. Appreciate the time.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Thank you.
Operator: We have now reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to now turn the call over to Martin Lyons for closing remarks.
Martin J. Lyons Jr.: Hey. Thank you all for joining today. We are going to remain focused here at Ameren on delivering value for our customers and meeting the growing energy needs of our region. We are going to look to maintain reliability, manage costs, and position our company in the communities we serve for long term success. So I really appreciate your support. And I look forward to talking to you all over the coming weeks. Bye.
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