IDACORP, Inc. (IDA) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript
Review management commentary and the analyst Q&A from IDACORP, Inc. (IDA)'s Q3 2026 earnings call. Use the transcript to track changes in demand, guidance, operating priorities, and the KPIs behind the company's reported results.
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Operator: Good afternoon, everyone. And welcome to IDACORP's third quarter 26 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded. And our webcast is live. A replay will be available later today and for the next 12 months on the IDACORP website. If you need assistance at any time during the presentation, please press 0 on your phone. I will now turn the call over to Amy I. Shaw. Vice president of finance, compliance, and risk.
Amy I. Shaw: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining our call. The slides we will reference during today's call are available on IDACORP's website. As noted on Slide 2, our discussion today includes forward-looking statements, including things like earnings guidance, spending forecast, financing plans, regulatory plans and actions and estimates and assumptions that reflect our current views on what the future holds. These are all subject to risks and uncertainties. Those risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from statements made today, we caution against placing undue reliance on any forward looking statements. Have included our cautionary note on forward looking statements and various risks factors in more detail for your review in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As shown on slide 3, also presenting today, we have Lisa A. Grow, President and CEO Brian R. Buckham, CFO and John R. Wonderlich investor relations manager. Slide 4 has a summary of our third quarter financial results. IDACORP's diluted earnings per share were $2.73 compared with 2.26 for last year's third quarter. For the first 9 months of 2026, diluted earnings per share were 5.76 versus $5.13 in 2025. And those results only include additional credit amortization of $6.3 million in the first 9 months of 2026, versus $39 million in the first 9 months of last year. Showcases the strong performance so far for 2026. For our key operating metrics, we are raising our full year IDACORP diluted earnings per share guidance range by $0.10 on the bottom and $0.05 at the top of the range. Our new range is $6.40 to $6.50 per share. This increase is driven by our strong operational results in the third quarter, It includes our expectation that Idaho Power will use less than $10 million of tax credit amortization for the full year, which is a reduction from the less than $15 million in our prior guidance. These estimates also assume historically normal weather conditions for the rest of the year. I will turn the call over to Lisa.
Lisa A. Grow: Thank you, Amy, and thanks to everyone for joining us today. I will start by highlighting the impressive growth we continue to see across our service area. This growth is diverse, happening across all customer types in a wide variety of industries. As you can see on slide 5, our customer count has increased 2.2% since last year's third quarter, including 2.4% growth in the residential segment. A particular note for this quarter are industrial revenues, which increased by an incredible 27% since last year's third quarter. After years of diligent planning and projects, we are seeing significant revenues coming in from large contract customers as they construct their facilities and come online. We are excited to be part of their success. META officially began operations at its data center south of Boise in September and is now ramping up. While Micron fab 1 and fab 2 expansions in Boise continue to make impressive progress. We have included photos on slide 6 so you can see the scale of these projects as well as a couple others. Our preliminary load growth CAGR for the 2027 IRP is 8.9% for retail sales for the next 5 years. That increase includes the higher base year load in the calculation. While this is still preliminary, you can see the substantial growth on slide 7. To put this in perspective, that is a load forecast of about 19 thousand gigawatt-hours in 2027 growing to about 29 thousand gigawatt-hours by 2032. This growth is substantial, and we are working hard to ensure Idaho Power stays ready to meet it and that we do so responsibly. As a reminder, for large contract customers, our preliminary load-forecasting projections only include the customers who have signed contracts or made significant financial commitment to Idaho Power for infrastructure build-out. In addition to large customers that we have already discussed, there is a diverse group of new and expanding customers interested in investing in our service area, including manufacturing, mining, food processing, transportation, data centers, and other energy intensive industries. To date in 2026, we have received 76 inquiries from projects with energy needs greater than 1 megawatt. Which is on pace for another year of historically high project activity. These projects have the potential to bring new jobs, investment, and long term economic opportunities. They also reinforce the importance of thoughtful planning to ensure we continue providing affordable and reliable service to our customers. To highlight a few other projects, Idaho Power broke ground this month on transmission facilities needed to provide electric service to perpetuous resource Perpetua Resources Dibnite project, which will support domestic production of critical minerals and strengthen the U.S. supply chain. We also recently celebrated the grand opening of Tractor Supply Company's new distribution center in Tampa. Another great example of economic growth and business investment happening across our service area. Idaho Power is focused on affordability as we grow. And we are proud that our prices remain 20 to 30% lower than the national average. As shown on slide 8, since 2016, average national electric rates have increased 41% Rent in Boise has increased 85%. And CPI inflation has grown 39%. While Idaho Power residential rates have increased 24% over that same period. An average of just 2.2% a year. We are strong advocates of Idaho's growth-pays-for-growth regulatory approach, and our contracts with large contract customers seek to protect Idaho Power and our existing customers from risk and cost-shifting. On slide 9, you can see some of the contract protections we target in energy service agreements with large contract customers. As I mentioned on last quarter's call, substantial increase in revenues we are seeing from these customers was a key driver for Idaho Power not filing a rate case. in 2026, which helps demonstrate the benefit of the growth-pays-for-growth model in Idaho. We are moving full speed ahead executing on projects to grow our serving--to serve our growing customer base and enhance our grid. As shown on slide 10, we are making great progress on the Boardman To Hemingway transmission line. To date, more than 1.2 thousand structure pads have been built, 1.1 thousand foundations have been installed, and about 780 towers have gone up, which represents about 60% of the project total. And, additionally, we have installed around 100 miles of conductor. B 2 h remains on schedule for an in-service date in late 2027. In addition, construction in Nevada continues on the Swift North transmission project, which we expect to be completed in 2028. On Gateway West transmission project, we continue to make progress and we have the transmission line construction out for bid. Moving to slide 11. We are continuing to make progress on 3 company owned natural gas-fueled projects. Construction is underway on a 167 megawatt resource we are building next to our existing Bennett Mountain gas plant. The new Bennett facility has a scheduled in-service date of 2028. And we have a CPCN, air permit, and EPC contract in place. We have CPCN applications filed for South Hills a 222 megawatt project scheduled for operation in 2029. As well as the 430 megawatt Peregrine project which is slated for 2030. We have executed equipment supply agreements for all 3 projects. Additionally, we signed an EPC contract for the Peregrine project and we are negotiating a contract for the South Hills project. The dispatchable energy from these plants will help us meet our projected low deficits and serve our customers with the least-cost, least-risk resources. Looking ahead to additional capacity and energy needs, our evaluation team received more than 100 bids for our 2032 RFP and has developed a final shortlist of 11 projects as shown on slide 12. As has been the case in past RFPs, Idaho Power has multiple company owned projects on the final shortlist, and we were pleased to have competitive bids. In fact, the 2031 self-build project on the slide is the top ranked project. The list also includes third party owned solar, wind, and battery facilities along with a few market purchase bids. We do not intend to contract with every project on the list as of now. it is a substantial number of megawatts in total, more megawatts than in our updated load forecast through 2032. However, consistent with what we have done previously, our final shortlist can accommodate potential incremental growth. And it is good to have that optionality. We are working to get contracts in place and expect to move forward with the selected projects by the end of this year, so keep an eye out for CPCN filings. And finally, as the Oregon sale goes, we continue to expect the sale to close in the spring of 2027. Pending successful regulatory outcomes. We recently received FERC's approval and the Oregon and Idaho state regulatory processes continue. And with that, I will turn the time over to Brian.
Brian R. Buckham: Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining. I am going to jump right into the drivers of the quarter's results on Slide 13. You can see the biggest driver was higher retail revenues, resulting from a combination of incremental benefits from current base rates and customer growth, were nearly a $44 million benefit for the quarter, and they were about $90 million. Year to date, combined. Overall, per customer usage was essentially flat for the quarter as the fixed-cost adjustment mechanism, decreased retail revenues for the quarter, That was a result of slightly higher sales to the residential and small commercial customer classes. The new line we added in the second quarter, revenues from large customer contract customers increased operating income by almost $12 million for the quarter, From a year to date perspective, it was around $20 million, which illustrates the ramp up. This piece is important because we are seeing the benefit of large contract customers materializing. And that accounts for much of the 27% increase in industrial customer revenues. That Lisa mentioned. As we expected, O and M expense came in higher in the third quarter, The primary drivers were the amortization of previously deferred costs for the Jim Bridger and Valmy plants, and our wildfire mitigation program. Remember, we recover a large portion of those items through rates and regulatory mechanisms. Depreciation and amortization expense increased a little over $7 million for the quarter. that is also not surprising because we continue to invest heavily in system infrastructure to support increasing customer demand. We had more plant in service. Other changes in operating revenues and expenses increased operating income by $10.6 million Similar to the impact we saw in the first half of the year, this benefit resulted primarily from a decrease in net power supply expenses not accrued through the power cost adjustment mechanisms. That was in large part due to updates to the Idaho jurisdiction PCA mechanism based on last year's rate case. Lower property tax expense also contributed to this benefit and was the result of a change in law in Idaho in 2025. Our nonoperating expense increased slightly as higher CWIP balances driven again by heavy infrastructure investments led to higher AFUDC. Which mostly offset higher interest expense. If you take a look at the balance sheet, you will see CWIP was over $2.1 billion at quarter end. Which really illustrates Lisa's point about how busy we have been as a company. that is, of course, the beauty of financial statements. Sometimes the numbers alone tell a story equivalent to elegant prose. Income tax expense, if you exclude ADITCs, provided a $700 thousand benefit for the quarter That was mostly driven by plant related flow through items. Amy mentioned that Idaho Power recorded just over $6 million of additional ADITCs so far this year. Compared to $39 million reported last year over the same time period, so a positive start there. I think that is particularly notable given the higher estimated year end book equity in the Idaho jurisdiction this year. And it is demonstrative of the strong financial performance the company's had so far this year. We have been working through our capital budget forecast which entails updating project timing and pricing as well as incorporating new projects. The CapEx graph from prior quarters is outdated. As you might expect, may underrepresent what we expect our capital will look like over the planning window. We plan to provide an updated CapEx forecast on our Q4 earnings conference call. On our more typical cadence. And it will incorporate our standard updates as well as the CapEx impacts of company-owned projects selected from the 2032 RFP. That are far enough along in the process and ready for prime time. I want to spend a little time talking about financing. And what we expect to be more detailed on the Q4 earnings call, and that takes us to Slide 14. The third quarter, we executed $268 million of forward sale agreements through our 2026 ATM program. That added the $265 million we sold in the first half of the year under that same program All of those shares are on forwards. We also still have proceeds available from the unsettled forwards from both our prior 2024 ATM program and our follow on offering from last year. Which you can see in the chart on the slide. I think the main point here is that we have a balance of about $873 million of forward available for settlement right now. And we have intentionally prefunded our equity needs so we can blend that equity in to remain around our target 50% debt-to-equity capital structure. The end of Q3, without counting unsettled forwards, we were at 51% equity at both IDACORP and Idaho Power. So pretty close to our target. A little bit of that headroom. We will refresh it for our Q4 call. With the related refreshed CapEx look as you can see on Slide 15, we have already solved for the bulk of our current plan's equity needs. We have the equity we need for the current plan through 2027 and likely into part of 2028. And we currently expect to address the remaining amount of equity required to fund our current CapEx plan through ATM issuances. Additional CapEx would require some additional debt and growth equity. With the amount dependent in large part on the payment timing for that CapEx. Our approach on financing will continue to be mindful of managing dilution with things like forward and payment timing, reimbursable customer funding, and other approaches. Related to that, with recent increases in volatility in interest rates, I thought it would be good to talk about interest expense going forward. We are fortunate to have limited long term debt refinancing requirements over the next 5 years with just $80 million maturing in 2030. We also do not have any holding company debt or long term variable rate debt. We are also in a more frequent rate case mode allowing for more timely cost of capital adjustments a rising interest rate environment. Each of those attributes reduces our exposure to interest rate risk. Going forward. On the regulatory front, it is time for us to start running numbers on a potential June 2027 rate case filing. Revenues from the outcome of last year's general rate case, revenues from large contract customers, and customer growth across all classes all help keep us out of a rate case this year, notwithstanding the inflationary pressures. We have a lot of infrastructure under construction this year, we expect some of the larger projects built for the benefit of our broad customer base. will not convert from CWIP to plant-in-service until 2027. Those are projects like B2H or other transmission projects. Hydro plant refurbishments, system hardening that benefit all customers just as a few examples. Contrast that with the infrastructure we built for large contract customers. which are recovered through ESAs with those customers. Having a large portion of our broad customer projects going into service in 2027, increases the likelihood of us filing a general rate case next year. But we will be doing the math on it. As we head into the last couple months of the year, we are seeing large contract customer revenues continue to ramp after years of investment by both them and us. We have had strong financial results year to date, and we are looking good going into year end what we expect to be a 19th consecutive year of EPS growth. And we are focused on affordability for our customers while also running full steam ahead developing and constructing several transmission and generation projects for existing and future customers. We are 2 years into more than doubling our rate base over a 5 year window. Executing efficiently on our financing plan to do all of that. I like where we are sitting right now, and I like we are headed. For those attending, we are excited to see you at the upcoming EEI financial conference. In sunny Arizona. As many of you know, it is 1 of my favorite events of the year. So I am going to wrap it up there and hand it over to America's top IR professional, John R. Wonderlich.
John R. Wonderlich: Thanks, Brian. Turning to slide 16. You can see our 2026 full year earnings guidance and key operating metrics. We have had some solid improvement in our earnings and ADITC guidance. As usual, we assume normal weather for the remainder of 2026 for our guidance. With continued strong operating performance, we now expect IDACORP's diluted earnings per share this year to be in the range of $6.40 to $6.50. We lifted the bottom and top ends of the range. We also see improvement in our ADITC expectations. So we are cutting $5 million off of our previous guidance. Now expect that Idaho Power will use less than $10 million of additional investment tax credit amortization in 2026. This is much less than the $40 million we amortized in full-year 2025. Especially when considering the significant increase in year end book equity. We now expect full year O&M expense to be in the range of $535 million to $545 million. We still anticipate spending between $1.3 billion and $1.5 billion on CapEx in 2026. As noted on the second quarter call, at this point, it is fair to say we are trending to the high end of that range for CapEx. Based on our current forecast of hydropower operating conditions, we now expect hydropower generation to be within the range of 5.5 million to 6 million megawatt hours for the year. With that, we are happy to address questions you might have.
Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session for attendees who have joined the Q&A line. If you would like to ask a question, please do so by pressing star 1 on your phone. Please ensure your mute function is turned off before you ask your question. We will take as many questions as time permits on a first come basis. Once again, please press star 1 on your phone to ask a question. Your first question comes from the line of Shar Pourreza. With Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Lisa A. Grow: Hi, Shar. Good afternoon.
Whitney: Good afternoon. This is Whitney Mutalemwa on for Shar. Yes. Thank you for taking my question. Since the. Assuming the shortlist is larger than the committed forecast, what has to happen before you contract beyond committed need?
Lisa A. Grow: Does a pipeline customer have to sign, and now get commission approval within the 270 days before you would commit to more self-build? It can be that,, but we also. Anytime a customer, there is a signed ESA, or they have made a significant financial commitment, then we would add them to the load forecast. So it does not have to necessarily go all the way through commission approval.
Whitney: Okay. Understood. And since the 29 thousand gigawatt hours only includes signed or committed customer, how big is the pipeline sitting outside in megawatts?
Lisa A. Grow: Given the 76 inquiries this year, it is sitting right about 4 thousand megawatts and I know that number seems familiar. We have said that number for several calls, only it is not the same 4 thousand because as projects go into construction, we move them out of that as other projects come in. So I think you want to add something, Adam?
Adam Richins: Yeah. I think you mentioned the 4-gigawatt, and that is what we have mentioned in the past. Just a couple quick things. The 4 gigawatts does not include Micron Fab 1 or Meta 1. Meta 1, obviously, as we mentioned in the call, is complete. Micron fab 1 is progressing. So the 4-gigawatts we talk about is truly a future pipeline. And of that 4 gigawatts, I would say 1 gigawatt is what we often refer to as promising. It usually includes a financial commitment, and those entities are moving towards construction or potential construction. We have another 1 gigawatt of the 4 that are being actively studied so we commonly refer to those as the study phase. Maybe no major financial commitments yet, but we have been paid to study those projects. And then around 2 gigawatts of the 4 feel preliminary is lots of times what we refer to them as. But we have another 3 gigawatts that have come in the door since we talked about the 4-gigawatt number. So really, 5 gigawatts are preliminary and, again, another 1 gigawatt is promising, and another 1 gigawatt is being studied. Just to give you kind of an overall look at where we stand.
Whitney: Yes. I am all set. Thank you, Lisa. Thank you, Adam. Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lonegan with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Michael: Hi there. Hi. Good afternoon. Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. So on the RFP, I understand the total resources on the final shortlist may exceed your capacity needs. I was just wondering if you could share you know, specific amount of resource and megawatts you know, you expect to procure and then you know, on the self built, can you talk about when. The timing of when the capital will start being spent and the profile of that investment?
Adam Richins: Michael, this is Adam. So I think with slide 12 that we showed you, it shows a resource for 2031. And that resource is the 430 megawatt gas plant that is actually an advanced simple cycle plan. We have started moving forward with that project. The turbines have been reserved. The EPC contract has been awarded, and it was the number 1 rank project for that year. Think the project we are really diving deep into right now is the 32 project that is 432 megawatts of the combined cycle plant. That was also the number 1 project except in 2032. We are just evaluating load right now to make sure that the project we are gonna go forward with. In terms of CapEx, it is spread out throughout the years. We obviously have projects in 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031, and 2032. We have transmission lines that we are building during that period too. So it stays pretty consistent in terms of the spend 1 of the things we are noticing now is a lot of times these projects, have to put CapEx for it a little bit earlier than we used to. So you will see some of that spend a little bit know, it could be years in advance of actual projects going into service.
Michael: Thank you. And then that is Ben. I think you alluded to it could be at the know, incremental capital could be at $50.50. Equity debt that correct?
Brian R. Buckham: Yeah. This is Brian. So the incremental cat. The incremental cost above what is in the plan that is out there now, if you look back at our slides from last quarter, you can see a planned capital forecast Any expenses above what is in that, we would expect to fund $50.50 debt equity. What I will say is there are exceptions to that. For example, there may be some in instances where a customer upfront on the portion of 1, There may be opportunities for bill transfer arrangement that put the payment schedule later in the cycle. As Adam mentioned, typically, it is milestone payments, but that is something that is up for discussion. As we go through RFP processes. What I will say is, you know, the CapEx forecast you have seen in the past neither of those 2 plants are in that CapEx forecast. Those would entirely incremental to what you see if they were to move ahead.
Michael: Thank you. And then lastly for me on Micron Fab 2, wondering if you could share the status of negotiations, you know, and when you expect to sign an ESA? I think you previously said before year-end. So is that still the expectation, you know, something very near-term, next couple of months?
Lisa A. Grow: Well, we certainly are continuing to work with them. And we feel like it is going well. And, certainly, we are hopeful that we will meet those timelines. And we will you will certainly see the filing when we do.
Michael: Okay. Thank you very much for taking my question. Thank you. Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Christopher Ellinghaus with Siebert Williams Shank. Line is open. Please go ahead.
Lisa A. Grow: Hi, Christopher.
Chris: Everybody. Just looking at slide 12, you know, you have had a continuous flow of new resources. At what point does you know, a conventional combined cycle start to make sense to sort of fill in for. Get slightly better efficiencies?
Lisa A. Grow: Well, we certainly would have taken a few of those if we could have got them. By now. But, certainly, when you start looking into the 2032 range, I think when that is a combined cycle.
Adam Richins: Yeah. Christopher, this is Adam. That 2032 project, it is 432 megawatts. That is a combined cycle project.
Chris: Okay. Can you qualify the quarter in terms of what the weather benefit looked like for the for the period?
Lisa A. Grow: I am not sure if I have that. Do you have that, Brian?
Brian R. Buckham: Yeah. I can give you some indication on that. I mean, 1 of the big drivers, of course, is for the irrigation. Year over year. Q3 was actually pretty decent. We saw some benefit from that. I think maybe the best way I could give you the indication is weather normalized sales, and you can compare that to the non-normalized sales that are in the 10-Q, but our weather normalized sales overall were 2.9%. I think a lot of the driver of that, if you think about some of the large loads and special contracts that are coming on, the weather normalized sales weather does not have as big of an impact on them. But for industrial and special contract combined was 58%,. And that sales volume, so a pretty significant increase And then Lisa mentioned the other side, the revenue side, 27% increase. From the large load customers. So on the weather side, you know, timing of precipitation in the second quarter led to some irrigation sales, pretty consistent with last year in Q3. But beyond that, it was not as weather impacted If you look at heating and cooling degree days, they were deviated from normal, but not as much year over year.
Chris: Right. Okay. So, Brian, given the dividend payout target, you are, you know, sort of continuing a pace what you have been doing, certainly what the recent dividend increase was, you start to run up against the bottom of the payout range You know, is there a hard target there? Is there a minimum you are willing to get to? Or just sort of what are your thoughts? Because it is not that far off.
Brian R. Buckham: Yeah. Yes, I would say we are not too far off of that now as you look at it. We do not have a concern if for some period of time we fall below that. 50 to 60% dividend target range. In fact, we very well may do so as we reinvest the capital in the business rather than pay it out as dividend. What that gives us, though, is very significant dividend horsepower for the future. We do recognize the importance of the dividend, but we also recognize the benefit to our owners of reinvesting the capital. So if we were to fall below, I think we would get pretty significant support from our shareholders in making that reinvestment.
Chris: Okay. The IRP. The preliminary numbers in terms of load growth have accelerated a little bit. How much of that is a function of some of the big items, the big ticket items like Micron 2, and how much of that is you know. Can you sort of characterize given the higher base where you are seeing that acceleration come from.
Operator: Go ahead.
Adam Richins: This is Adam, Christopher. So the 8.9 that we just showed you does include Fab 1 and Fab 2 of Micron. Includes Meda 1, which we talked about that just went online. It also includes another data center that is been unnamed at this point, so I cannot necessarily talk about it, but it has other diverse loads. It includes Perpetua. It includes INL and Chobani. So that is kind of what makes up that load growth. Obviously, we are seeing a fair amount of residential growth too. I think it was right around a percent of that growth, yes, is residential. Seeing some irrigation growth. I think over point 5% of it was irrigation loads. What that does not include, that 8.9 does not include for example, if Micron were to move forward with a Fab 3, or diode, which we have talked about before, or any other data centers just to give you a little bit of color on what it does and does not include.
Chris: Okay. that is really helpful. I appreciate it. Alright. We will see you in a week or so. Thanks. Appreciate it. All right. You too, Christopher.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Brian: Hi there. Hi. Good afternoon. Just to try to triangulate the 8.9% IRP load growth with the 2032 RFP. I mean, in theory, how--what does that RFP imply in terms of 32 needs?
Lisa A. Grow: Sorry.
Analyst: I did not hear that last bit.
Adam Richins: I think that. So this is Adam. I think we have touched on this just a little bit, but the biggest question on the 2032 is again that 432 megawatt combined cycle plant. It feels like it is going in that direction, but we still need to kind of look at, the load forecast, a few other things, then we will make a decision on that front. But to your point, 2032 is likely gonna need some resources. Or it is gonna need something in addition to what we have in 2031.
Brian: Okay. Got it. And then just I mean, given the pipeline, that you discussed earlier and this new IRP. And should we expect, like, a similar cadence of, like, annual RFP RFPs even past 2032 like we have just. like we have seen the past 4 or 5 years. I mean, is there still, you know, a lot more load you know, behind, say, you know, Micron fab 2?
Lisa A. Grow: Certainly. I mean, as load continues to come in and we need to negotiate these ESAs, if it is possible, absolutely. And that is been kind of the nice part about our growth story is we are seeing into the 20 thirties with some of these customers. But, of course, it will be contingent upon the, you know, final negotiations. But. Yeah. I mean, from where we sit, I think it is possible.
Brian: Okay, great. Well, thank you very much. Thank you.
Operator: As a reminder, please press 1. To ask a question. Your next question comes from the line of David Arcaro with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Alex: Hi. This is Alex Kania for David. Thanks for taking my question. So starting with the--starting with the ADITCs, you are not expecting to use less than $10 million this year so, looking forward, do you think you could be earning above the minimum ROE in the next 2 years?
Lisa A. Grow: and no longer be requiring the ADITCs? Well,, that will largely depend on sort of the project timing and sort of how. Like, you know, the financing plan. But it certainly our goal is to use as few as possible. What would you add?
Brian R. Buckham: Alex, just looking at each individual year. This year, you know, with a number of less than $10 million it is possible. To get down to zero and grow above that. It would take very strong operating performance in the fourth quarter for that to happen, some of it probably weather driven. If you look ahead to 2027, 1 of the things that I have really focused on is just what is happening operationally in 2027 from a plant closing perspective. So you see a lot of CWIP convert. When that happens, if there is no rate change that will accommodate that, at the beginning of the year, then you do end up with the loss of AFUDC, and you take on depreciation. That makes it hard to get through 2027 without some ADITC usage. Then 2028, we file our rate case in 2027. 2028 would have the benefit of that rate case. Again, you have got quite a bit of plan going into service, but a lot of that is offset by contract. Large contract customer revenues. And so that is the analysis we have to look at every year. But as I look at 2027 now, we will we will give our forecast for earnings in ADITC usage in February. But my preliminary thoughts are I do believe we use ADITCs in 27.
Alex: Got it. Very clear. And then moving to supply chain, you have a large CapEx spend ahead, and you have signed more contracts since the last update. So could you comment on where do you see the main supply chain bottlenecks from your perspective? And also how you are preparing to execute on that plan and on the potential incremental CapEx to be announced in the next update, like, how much of that is already procured or on track?
Lisa A. Grow: As far as the turbines go, we either, you know, have reservation agreements or supply agreements, so we feel really strong about the plant. Of course, there is always the breakers and transformers and conductor that just seems to be in, you know, it is a challenge, but we get ahead of it. So I feel like we are in a really good spot for those projects. Is there anything you would add, Adam?
Adam Richins: No. The only thing maybe is that the EPC contractor market has been tough too, and we have been really fortunate in that area to be able to award and select EPC contractors for every 1 of these plants but 1 at this point. So that was something we were a little worried about. I think contractors are very interested in our diverse load, and so they have been interested in bidding into these projects. And we have been pleasantly surprised with the variety of contractors we have received and the bids we have received.
Alex: Got it. Very clear. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Campanella With Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Analyst: Hi. Good afternoon, team. Hey. Maybe could you just give me a sense which data center loads that were mentioned earlier are already included in the demand assumptions underpinning the 2032 RFP?
Adam Richins: Yes. This is Adam. So the 2032 RFP would have had just 1 data center, which is Meta 1. So Okay. Data centers that are looking at us or, you know, I mentioned an unnamed data center that we feel pretty confident about. Those were not included in that load forecast, which I think was based on 2025 IRP.
Analyst: Got it. And then you know, you mentioned about, you know, you guys are running the numbers to see if you file a 2027 rate case. When can we expect an update on whether you guys do proceed on doing that or not?
Lisa A. Grow: Generally, you know, we kind of look to file in June. We have to give a 60-day notice of intent to file in Idaho. So, you know, that is kind of how we are thinking about it when we feel like we will have a good look at what we have coming at it. So I think that is generally what we are focused on.
Brian R. Buckham: Yeah. This is Brian. I will just add that by the time we have the fourth quarter call, we have done of our early analysis. It takes so long to put a rate case together that we will at least have some preliminary financials that will give us the ability to make a preliminary call on whether we file a rate case or not. It is, as Lisa mentioned, that notice of filing that is the definitive moment of that. But we may be able to give a little bit of insight on the Q4 call.
Analyst: Okay. Got it. Thank you so much.
Operator: That concludes the question and answer session for today. Miss Grow, I will now turn the conference back to you.
Lisa A. Grow: Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us today and for your continued interest in IDACORP. I look forward to seeing you all at EEI. And I hope you have a great evening, and I wish you a very happy Halloween. I hope you get all dark chocolate. Thanks.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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